On last week’s podcast, you heard from Gov. Brad Little, as he summed up the record-setting 2021 legislative session.

For a counterpoint, Kevin Richert sits down this week with House Minority Leader Ilana Rubel, D-Boise. They talk about the session’s big education debates — including the failed federal early education grant bill, and the higher education budgets. Rubel also talks about her party’s political prospects in 2022.